tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post1646752692100960754..comments2024-03-11T12:46:28.806-04:00Comments on You. Me. Ride This Crazy Train - Adventures and Observations on The GO: And the crazy just got speed dialed up at SmoakvilleC.J. Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03325979176373626807noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-82476254988733370242015-05-08T08:23:31.599-04:002015-05-08T08:23:31.599-04:00Anon at 5:31, while your solution is more safe, by...Anon at 5:31, while your solution is more safe, by not speaking up we are tacitly approving of the bad behavior...kinda like keeping quiet when a someone is being bullied.<br /><br />Many, (most?), people when outed for their bad behaviour comply, but when they don't other members of the community must support the person who is asking for a cessation of the bad behaviour. this is how civilized society works. Then if the asshat is part of the 2-3% of population that needs more formal training, then security needs to be available in those limited situations. A ticket agent indicating that the police and TSO have been called and are having a race to see who can get there first would be adequate.Skin Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-35527892026297489312015-05-07T17:39:14.957-04:002015-05-07T17:39:14.957-04:00Um, the definition of a first world problem is: I...Um, the definition of a first world problem is: I didn't put the car in the garage because the batteries in the door opener are dead. <br />Or, articles that describe the correct way to eat french onion soup without getting it on your tie.<br />Public mischief and intimidation in a shared public space is not a first world problem. It's a social problem. And it should be taken seriously. C.J. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325979176373626807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-16448291757624212232015-05-07T17:31:38.156-04:002015-05-07T17:31:38.156-04:00From what I have seen, TSO are very understaffed. ...From what I have seen, TSO are very understaffed. They have to respond to everything including parking issues, trespassers, disturbances on the trains and buses AND fare enforcement! In a perfect world, they can be all over the small issues like smokers/ skateboarders, etc. As much of a loser this guy is, its better to stay out of it. This is the definition of a first world problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-75149737489259431732015-05-07T11:04:37.559-04:002015-05-07T11:04:37.559-04:00Nora1968, you're right. In essence, Mary Proc...Nora1968, you're right. In essence, Mary Proc, VP, Customer Service deputized us all. So, for services rendered as QZ enforcement officers, we should send invoices for our time to Greg Percy, President. Whether we chastised anyone in the QZ, or not, is immaterial. We were on duty.Iona Pintónoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-10741061109075883122015-05-07T08:57:55.954-04:002015-05-07T08:57:55.954-04:00Y'know that its a bare minimum of crazies and ...Y'know that its a bare minimum of crazies and jerks out there - maybe no more than 2 to 3%, but the tipping point into unsafe and decrepit state is also low.<br />Its not so much the two or three nimrods who smoke in a crowd of a hundred openly under no-smoking signs, its not even the obviously meth-headed who do cute things like skateboard-chicken games with buses and drop trou... Its the idea of critical mass.<br />Once most accept the fact that there is not going to be enforcement over smoking, or rude self-entitled behaviour, or blatant disregard for safety, the door opens wider and wider. Its not so much the minority of crackheads as it is the growing room that is afforded them.<br />I've had people come up to me AFTER the fact and thank me for "standing up", but no one has ever stood up with me.<br />Where is the public campaign? Why is enforcement so bloody invisible? Why must photos like this be used?<br />Everyone knows the boat is sinking - everyone knows the Captain lied...deepfishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-79331959757059377922015-05-07T08:55:03.104-04:002015-05-07T08:55:03.104-04:00The Quiet Zone (my opinion of which you are no dou...The Quiet Zone (my opinion of which you are no doubt sick of hearing LOL) is a MetroLinx (or GO Transit) policy. And as such, it therefore should be enforced by PAID enforcement officers who have been granted some theoretical authority by Metrolinx/GO to do so. I can't understand how anyone could realistically roll our and implement a policy of any kind but have as a "safety plank" that the CUSTOMERS will enforce this policy. Nora1968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-21568358019308298702015-05-07T07:43:50.472-04:002015-05-07T07:43:50.472-04:00^ agreed. Sometimes I do feel some of us feel obli...^ agreed. Sometimes I do feel some of us feel obliged to police the world and we do this unarmed and untrained, equipped only with moralsC.J. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325979176373626807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-41311374306917470392015-05-07T07:39:32.139-04:002015-05-07T07:39:32.139-04:00I remember when the QZ was being rolled out, and t...I remember when the QZ was being rolled out, and there was a survey about enforcement: do you prefer passenger or TSO enforcement. I believe that GO/Metrolinx have passenger enforcement as one of their "safety planks". And this is the conundrum. How do people with nothing more than their perceived moral high ground manage the poorly behaved and otherwise uncivilized? It is by definition, a recipe for conflict. If one accepts that, then you need to invest in safety protocols to protect those people who accept the role of parent to the children of the world.Skin Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-22141914664534942562015-05-06T21:58:51.945-04:002015-05-06T21:58:51.945-04:00The TSOs I've had dealings with have been prof...The TSOs I've had dealings with have been professional and courteous and committed. Its just that there is gaping chasm between what GO undertakes to provide, (safe travel and transit areas) and the commitment of resources to provide same.<br />And when you have such a gap it gets filled with such chaos as we see here.deepfishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-74691902650080563342015-05-06T20:14:31.809-04:002015-05-06T20:14:31.809-04:00Metrolinx has always fumbled with security. The TS...Metrolinx has always fumbled with security. The TSOs do tremendous work with the limited resources they have and the frustrations we all have with the lack of enforcement, the protection of bus drivers, and let's not forget station attendants, seems to go unnoticed. At least this is the perception of those of us who are down on the ground and not up in the Ivory Bay Tower. C.J. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325979176373626807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-81435576427072386392015-05-06T20:14:16.900-04:002015-05-06T20:14:16.900-04:00Metrolinx has always fumbled with security. The TS...Metrolinx has always fumbled with security. The TSOs do tremendous work with the limited resources they have and the frustrations we all have with the lack of enforcement, the protection of bus drivers, and let's not forget station attendants, seems to go unnoticed. At least this is the perception of those of us who are down on the ground and not up in the Ivory Bay Tower. C.J. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325979176373626807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-85632921927717631032015-05-06T20:01:53.636-04:002015-05-06T20:01:53.636-04:00I hope a bus does run over this low-life. Then let...I hope a bus does run over this low-life. Then let Darwin take care of guys like him who behave badly in public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-26011596324831803992015-05-06T19:54:27.152-04:002015-05-06T19:54:27.152-04:00The assailant of the bus driver at Burlington stat...The assailant of the bus driver at Burlington station on Easter weekend last year travelled Route 12 with impunity after the incident. Was Niagara Region on Transit Security's radar? Maybe, but I never saw one TSO on the bus or at a stop. Will Oakville be on the radar over this incident? Perhaps. But there is a difference between being on the radar and scrambling to intercept.Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-58324622552140176622015-05-06T18:21:31.986-04:002015-05-06T18:21:31.986-04:00Yes, TSOS have limited resources. They do what the...Yes, TSOS have limited resources. They do what they can with the limited team they have an prioritize their response based on the limited info given to them by dispatch. They may have been told this was an argument outside station while they had a call come in the there was someone on the tracks. You can only be so many places at one time. VRSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-27274079362586185962015-05-06T15:31:52.867-04:002015-05-06T15:31:52.867-04:00Novel idea, Tom!
You mean like how people should ...Novel idea, Tom!<br /><br />You mean like how people should REALLY seek action as opposed to hoping I'll put on my "influencer" and "stakeholder" uniform and make it so?<br /><br />MM does follow up. The others is armchair slacktivism at its finest.C.J. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325979176373626807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-83521213681919597482015-05-06T15:27:52.978-04:002015-05-06T15:27:52.978-04:00It would be nice is everyone who reads this post e...It would be nice is everyone who reads this post emails/tweets/writes on the Facebook page of/writes a latter to GO Transit about people smoking where they shouldn't.TomWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13453251490705724225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-54296597491272766452015-05-06T13:32:02.011-04:002015-05-06T13:32:02.011-04:00Not surprised in the least but Oakville should be ...Not surprised in the least but Oakville should be on Transit Security's radar as of today.C.J. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325979176373626807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-11194742481802230852015-05-06T13:27:18.445-04:002015-05-06T13:27:18.445-04:00This is the kind of thing that at one time I would...This is the kind of thing that at one time I would see and try to do something, now that the world has completely lost it's mind, I don't bother. Not. Worth. It. Dealing with the crazies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-35991343101271418872015-05-06T13:21:03.438-04:002015-05-06T13:21:03.438-04:00Canary in a coal mine. Broken window syndrome.
Th...Canary in a coal mine. Broken window syndrome.<br /><br />They have no smoking signs but don't enforce them.<br /><br />The crazies see this situation - smokers smoking under no smoking signs - as a "broken window" : a sign that is visible in a decaying neighbourhood that it is open season - that the area is ready for the circus to come to town.<br /><br />So the clown cars roll on in.<br /><br />Anyone surprised in the least?<br /><br />deepfishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-32465936551907291482015-05-06T11:12:49.729-04:002015-05-06T11:12:49.729-04:00I think I've said this before. If there is an...I think I've said this before. If there is any hint of a situation escalating, dial 911. Transit Security has limited resources. TSO's are not there for GO Transit bus drivers (http://bit.ly/1cmAQqd), and chances are they won't be there for you (as MM learned).Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441168213084499367.post-32581022567772650472015-05-06T10:42:09.375-04:002015-05-06T10:42:09.375-04:00This is exactly why people don't confront smok...This is exactly why people don't confront smokers, foot riders and other 'crazies'. People who behave like this are nuts and you shouldn't mess with them! (At least you need to be extra subtle when taking their pic anyway).<br /><br />Having said that, if no-one even tackled the nutjobs this site wouldn't be half as much fun...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com